I agree with you on both counts, Ken. I am just tired of hearing people who see negativity in even the slightest hint of success in this party. You have been around alot longer than I, and I have a feeling that such discourse is not new. My main point is that all of a sudden when I talk to people about who they will get their vote for President, and mention Bob Barr, some people have actually heard of him. They don't know what he stands for, but then again most of them have no idea what the people they usually vote for stand for either. Any media is good media when nobody knows who you are, right?